From BluWiki

[edit] Skype Chat Agenda

Theme

Dan - will work on it from a tar ball from Steve. Matt can work with version control - matt to sort out panels, views, Danny to work on css.

Incidents

Chris has done some sterling work - Steve needs to add the database updates - 2010 so far, 2009, 2008, done (2006 lined up) 2007 needs work from David S.

We do all the config then imports later

Maps
Commits

[edit] The Idea

On the weekend of 15th/16th/17th January 2010 a bunch of people got together to do a re-write of the current Langdale and Ambleside Mountain Rescue Team website http://www.lamrt.org.uk

Our pre-live version can now be seen at:
http://lamrt.pilotinternet.com

Video can be seen at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/hookdesignalter

Steve P's Blog about the weekend: http://pilotinternet.com/blog

All mountain rescue services in the UK are run by volunteers and rely on public donations to cover costs.

Can't come along? Still interested? See the Follow Us section.

[edit] Things to do today

Pledge to bring something from the Resources List
Sign up for you Atrium Account (we'll be using this to project manage the process) - email steve parks (contact DavidC if you need his email address)
Make sure you have a bed!
Make sure you've got travel plans sorted
Pitch your Modules - think we need something special - tell us, maybe even download it and bring it with you (incase of internet failure!) We're going to start with an install of Acquia Drupal
Contribute some 'user stories' tonight via Skype
Suggest some clever ways that people following us from afar can help

[edit] Practicalities

[edit] Funding

Turns out we've got still got about £500 to help us with our costs for the weekend.

Currently I'd like to see that go on food first (We already have 16 bed spaces). Next I think we can look at helping with travel costs - obviously we can keep these lower by car sharing where possible. Depending on how the budget pans out, this could be a contribution, rather than covering the whole cost. (For cars it's likely to be petrol costs only)

Another factor me be additional accommodation costs, if there are more people than we can fit at the YHA.

It would be useful to get some idea of how much you might want to claim against our budget. If you want to email DavidC about that, It would help DavidC get some idea of how the money could end up being dished out.

[edit] Where

Ambleside in the Lake District, UK.

The base is at:
Langdale/Ambleside MRT, Low Fold, Lake Road, Ambleside, Cumbria, LA22 0DP.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Low+Fold,+Lake+Road,+Ambleside,+Cumbria,+LA22+0DP&sll=52.144385,-1.018243&sspn=0.380078,1.233215&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Low+Fold+Cottage,+Old+Lake+Rd,+Ambleside,+Cumbria+LA22+0DP,+United+Kingdom&z=15

The base is where we will be doing the work.

Langdale Youth Hostel has secure storage for bikes if anyone is planning on taking theirs.

There is also space for bikes outside the base, under a canopy just next to the door where they can be chained up and kept dry.

[edit] Accommodation

We have 2x8 bed dormitories at Langdale Youth Hostel for us. This is some way out of Ambleside itself (about 4 miles).

We will still need to sort out our meals for the weekend. Like all mountain rescue services in the UK, LAMRT is run by volunteers and relies on public donations to cover costs.

Feel free to organise your own B&B, youth hostel, 5* Hotel, tent (brrrrr).

[edit] Bag a bed

I think the set up is basically a women's dorm and a men's dorm. I suspect there will be more men than women, and there are a few couples. It would be good to hear if people have strong views about mixed sleeping arrangements, otherwise that might be the best solution.

If you want to 'bag a bed' (only 16 available) please list yourself below, and indicate your dorm preference:

David C (male or mixed)
Duck (female or mixed)
Tim R (male or mixed)
Danny T (male or mixed)
Alice (mixed)
Dan (male or mixed)
Stephen (male or mixed)
Steve P.(mixed)
Kamila (mixed)
Dave S (male or mixed)
Sam B (male or mixed)
Stephen H (male or mixed)
Andrew Mac (male or mixed)
Matt F (male or mixed)
Simon P (male or mixed - Friday night only)

[edit] Help I need a bed!

[edit] Getting there

(how are you getting there, where are you coming from, can you share/meet up)

DavidC - I'll be taking a car from Bingley - room for 1 more person - let me know if you want a lift (One space is probably Dave S, the other is probably Stephen H Stephen may need a lift from Bradford now..). I may also be taking some equipment and food. Expected to arrive at 6.30pm

Stephen H - Leaving Bradford about 5pm on Friday, either driving myself or scrounging a lift if one is available. If I drive myself then will have space for 2/3 (small, old car!) update going with DavidC

Tim R - I'll be driving from central Sheffield on the Friday, leaving 4.30 ish current plan. Space for up to 3 depending on how much gear you've got.

Chris Maiden - we'll be driving up from Preston and probably will have room for one.

Alice - Would appreciate a lift from Bradford area if somebody has space, since it'll be a lot cheaper car-sharing than getting public transport and I may have a bunch of networking equipment update Alice is travelling with Matt P

Dan - I'll be driving up from Stoke, picking Stephen up on the way.

Stephen - See above

Steve Parks and Kamila - We'll be leaving Leeds city centre at 4pm-ish on Friday and have room for 2 or 3 more.

Duck - I'd appreciate a lift from York if there's one going, or at least a pick up from the station, since I'll be bringing some cooking equipment too. update now going with Steve Parks

Andrew Mac - Would appreciate a lift, preferably from Leeds, but I can come to Bradford, if that's where the lift is. update now going with Steve Parks

Sam - Based in Ulverston (about a 30 minute drive from Ambleside) so can accommodate people if it makes anybody else's plans easier. Will be arriving probably by bus and know the area well so if anyone wants to tag along on the scenic route, I'd appreciate the company. Bus details are below.

Danny T - Driving from Newcastle

[edit] Local Info

Nearest Train Station is Windermere however there are no trains to Bradford Interchange on Saturday/Sunday so the return journey may not be much fun. (I think Coaches also go to Windermere)

[http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Station+Precinct,+Windermere,+LA23+1AH+(Windermere+Railway+Station)&daddr=Low+Fold,+Lake+Road,+Ambleside,+Cumbria,+LA22+0DP&hl=en&geocode=Cb3PTOzkNaBqFX7FPQMdcLDT_yH6C2D09CSk8g%3BFcd2PgMdxtDS_ynPFFut6Op8SDGrl6f0Alye8A&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=54.298896,-2.856445&sspn=0.381464,0.832214&ie=UTF8&ll=54.402746,-2.932663&spn=0.047563,0.104027&t=h&z=13 Map for route between Windermere train station and venue]

Local Bus Travel Map [1]

Route From Ulverston: X12 Ulverston to Coniston [2]

505 Coniston to Ambleside: [3]

Then a 20min walk from bus stop (your iPhone coverage may vary!)

Picture of Derwent Water [4]

[edit] When

Confirmed the 15th/16th/17th January 2010. Arrive in the evening, maybe do some palnning on that evening, but probably get started on Saturday morning.

With the long winter nights there's plenty of time to code, design, create content. Also there's no reason why those that want to go out and enjoy the daylight can't do that, as there's still plenty of time to work.

[edit] Food/Meals

When we first started planning, I expected that people would pay for their own accommodation and meals for the weekend, because, like all mountain rescue services in the UK, LAMRT is run by volunteers and relies on public donations to cover costs.

Since then we have secured Accommodation for 16 people at Langdale Youth Hostel, and we have a food budget. Also Duck has offered to do the catering (I'm sure some help would be appreciated!) Duck will happily provide us with FREE veggie food all weekend.

Also, there are lots of places to eat in and around Ambleside as far as DavidC knows.

[edit] Weekend Catering

Duck and DavidC are working on a shopping list and getting some food together.

The centre has a kitchen, but not sure if it's up to cooking big meals for lots of people...DavidC thinks they do frozen pizza's etc for people coming off a rescue..

Tea and Coffee shouldn't be a problem

Danny T - I'm happy to chip in with a bit of cooking, chopping, peeling whatever. Happy to cook meat also but I can't get to a supermarket.

[edit] Menus

From Duck: Suggestions for meals:

Breakfast: Cereal, toast, fry-up.

Lunch: soup (squash & ginger / red pepper), baked potatoes & toppings, cake.

Dinner: Friday tomato pasta, cake. Saturday veggie curry, chocolate puddle.

Snacks, out all day: tea/coffee/hot choc, cake, toast.

cake made so far Flapjack, chocolate orange, ginger, fruit cake, choc chilli cookies.

See also our shopping list at http://www.bluwiki.com/go/Lamrt-food

[edit] Dietary Requirements

All food that I'm cooking will be veggie (bacon optional for breakfast if someone else wants to cook it), please let me know about any further allergies, dislikes etc - Duck.

DavidC is veggy - eats dairy products.
Alice will eat anything except coffee
Dan is allergic to nuts

[edit] Meat Eaters

Are free to cook their own food, if wished, or turn up with baked potato topping of choice. Vegetables aren't poisonous. And if they are, there's always cake.

[edit] Work Area

We should be able to use the Mountain Rescue Centre Base in Ambleside. It's a great place with planning and breakout areas, kitchen, quiet rooms, and all the Mountain rescue stuff!

We may need an alternate plan in case there is an incident at the time.
Task for DavidC see what internet access is available at the YHA...update no internet access at the YHA - new task - what's mobile coverage like...From Nick "Mine's O2 and works fine. Vodafone works fine and I think Orange is ok"

[edit] Internet Access/Networks/Tools

(Finn wonders if there is broadband here?)
Finn - from Nick (LAMRT Team Leader):

"We have 2 pcs, a laptop and WiFi at base. There is another pc as well, but that is the operational one with the mapping on, so we can't use that.

I have the wireless key. Also there are RJ45 sockets around the building in different rooms, so although I've not tried it, it may be possible to connect via these as well. I'll try it in the next day or two."

I (DavidC) would expect people to be bringing their own machines.

Alice will bring a large network switch and some cat5 cables if we decide this is needed

Dan will bring an Apple Airport Extreme WiFi base station - this can handle 50 simultaneous connections. Will also bring plenty of mains adaptors.

Stephen suggests a Dropbox shared folder. This comes in *so* useful! (unlike trying to write in third person... don't seem to do that much!)

Sam B can bring a server box preinstalled with a classic LAMP setup. Could be good for a test server and to learn a few basics.

Matt F will bring 3 laptops. One can be used as the local LAMP dev server and one will be spare for anyone that requires it.

[edit] Mobile Phone Coverage

From Nick "Mine's O2 and works fine. Vodafone works fine and I think Orange is ok"

[edit] Methods

We probably want to think about how we manage this project, how and where we document the setup, what testing we do, how we keep track of what needs doing and who is doing what. This can probably be discussed in part at the Drupal User Group meeting since we don't want to spend too much time coming up with methods.

[edit] External Servers

I'm thinking test servers with shell/root access would be useful. We need to consider what we want to build the site on, and whether we should restrict ourselves to code which will run on shared-hosting or can assume we have a dedicated server.

I, (Stephen / stemount) can offer hosting for this if necessary/wanted/requested.

tim - should do it for shared-hosting as other teams may want to use the code base to develop from.

[edit] Version Control

~~Any thoughts, preferences? I (DavidC) tend to use Bazarr locally, but don't do much where I need to use it with other people and do scary things like resolve conflicts...~~

I understand all the cool kids use Git these days. Does anyone know much about it? If no-one knows Git and we don't want to be wrestling with it then may I suggest SVN, we use Unfuddle.com (pay for), it supports SVN (and Git), if people think Unfuddle is suitable I could email them to see whether they'd show their support by letting us have a 20 user account for free? Are there open source free alternatives?

(SteveP edit) - I use Git with Unfuddle and it's great. Can recommend it. If that's selected as the VCS I can bring some print outs of Git cheat sheets, and here are some good online resources for those new to it:

The main git website: http://git-scm.com/documentation
The Git Magic Book: http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch02.html
The Pro Git Book: http://progit.org/book/
Git for the Lazy: http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch02.html

DavidC - we have a meeting of the Yorkshire Drupal Group on 13th Jan at Panoetic in Bradford. Hopefully by then we will have taken a decison on where the test server will be, version control, finalised the list of equipement we need to bring etc...hopefully!

Looks like we're going with Bazarr - but that could still change!

[edit] Who's coming

(please leave a few details about yourself here)

David C - Drupal developer, currently maintain the Google and OS OpenSpace maps for the site.

~~Finn Lewis - Drupal developer, Ecobee (http://ecobee.org) / Ecohost (http://ecohost.coop)~~
Alice Kaerast - Can build backend PHP/Drupal stuff, do security testing, and bring wireless and wired networking equipment if I'm not coming by bicycle. I can also help with making dinner and talk about Lean/Agile development methods.
Tim Rivett (@tim_rivett)- Drupal developer (basic stuff), happy to do a load of boring grunt work.
Matt Fielding - Creative Director at Panoetic. Designer and Drupal frontend developer. Can supply test servers, online Bazaar repositories and dry wit!
Duck - don't Drupal, can offer to cook meals, & bake lots of cake. Also fell run, road bike, & mind-geek blog: http://brainduck.wordpress.com/about/
Chris, Rebecca and Emily Maiden (Chris is matason on d.o./IRC) - Drupal developer at menusandblocks Ltd, lover of the Lakes and maker of delightful coffee. The whole family is coming along, Rebecca is willing to help with proof reading and content entry in the evening whilst Emily (4yo) is sleeping. Would appreciate ideas of things for Rebecca and Emily to do during the day :) (see Code Widows)
Danny (Hitby on d.o. and irc) Graphic design & Drupal development - http://www.hookdesignalter.co.uk. Happy to help out with either (assuming the A66 is open!)
Dan (galooph on irc/d.o) - Drupal developer at menusandblocks
Stephen (stemount on IRC/d.o/everywhere) - BSc Hons. in Drupal
Steve Parks, Kamila Miara. Steve is 'pilot' or 'steveparks' on d.o and g.d.o. I'm a mid-level drupaler strong on theming, jquery, css etc - and knowledgeable on the range of drupal modules and how to use them - but not so strong yet on module development from scratch - but I'm learning! Am also up to speed with linux server admin. My main role in my day job (at Pilot Internet) is running the business, project management, etc - but that skillset isn't really needed this weekend! I'm a journalist by background, so can also write content. Kamila isn't a drupaler, and can help with writing content, cooking, or anything else.
Dave Spencer - retired sysadmin/dba. Likes: Dead lusers. Dislikes: Humans, version control. Favourite Dilbert character: Wally.
Sam Birchall (theblackbox on IRC) - local mascott and villiage idiot. I'm working on setting up a company to support creative businesses in Cumbria. Been using drupal on and off for a while now, but if drupal is the tit's - I'm an ass man! Give me slackware linux and a console streaming with compiler gumph and I'm happy!
Adam Sargant - PHP/MYSQL web applications development with Sitewriters... recent drupal convert (modules and snippets... haven't a design bone in my body)
John Sargent - no relation... Sitewriters design, css all that stuff
Steve Hutchings - software developer (currently Flex, Java, C), don't know drupal or similar but happy to help with any grunt work, testing etc. - or just making tea...
Andrew Macpherson (andrewmacpherson on d.o) - mid-level drupaller, broad knowledge of modules, module development, themer (but not designer!). Have experimented with most of the drupal geo modules.

[edit] Can't Come, but could still help

Hopefully we can find some things for people to do from afar on the weekend. This could be creating/copying over content, tagging things on delicious, documenting, feeding back, erm other stuff....Leave your ideas for how you could help from afar somewhere..

~~@Stevieflow - technology enabler - which means, I can make the tea and bring my bike!~~ Sorry everyone, but I'll be down south - I've tickets to see Stewart Lee (birthday treat!): Offering to do some delicious tagging
@TawdryMe - Freelance PHP guy, interesting in doing something with Twitters API and LAMRT!

[edit] Some Tasks

Google Searching and bookmarking content we need to be looking at (e.g. mountain safety sites - see http://delicious.com/caprenter/mountainsafety )
Enter/Copy over some content from the old site to the new
Browser Checking - is it working in your IE5, Opera 1.3.x, Chrome, etc?
Accessibility Checking
Proof reading
Usability testing
Blogging, social reporting, tweeting
We may have some data crunching to do - e.g. getting all the past incidents into a standard format - could be screen scraping, or done from access to the original HTML files
Maybe something about Photo's - taking very big photos and making them web size
Web 2.0 content - making links to Wikipedia, gathering youtube videos into a channel

[edit] Resources List

Who's bringing what?

A1 flip chart and pens (flip paper and pens - Tim)
Post-it notes for attaching to flipchart (tim)
24-port 3Com Superstack Switch - Alice
Cat5 cable tester - Alice
Server - Matt
Wifi Access Point - Dan
Cat5 cables - Alice (6), more needed (DavidC suggests "if you have one, bring one")
Multiway power adaptors - Alice (1), Dan (lots!)
Spare laptop(s)
Video Camera - ~~John Sargent~~ Danny T - I can bring a FlipHD
DVD of d.o cvs repository (maybe)
Webcam
Four old OS maps of the Lake District - the rescue area seams to fall on the boundaries! - DavidC (Anyone have upto date maps?

[edit] Resources already there

Projector and screen

[edit] Follow us

Twitter List http://twitter.com/kaerast/lamrt

Twitter Interest
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Flamrt.bluwiki.com

I (Chris Maiden) have kicked off a Twitter tag, #lamrt
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23lamrt

DavidC - I'm not too involved in twitter, I bet someone has a good way of tracking, visualising, etc this hash tag. Ideas? (or just go for it!). I'll be tweeting from @todaywedidthis

Alice will be tweeting/denting as @kaerast and is maintaining @kaerast/lamrt as a list of people involved (ping me if you're not on the list).

Stephen will be moaning/cursing/tweeting as per usual @stemount

Duck is @brainduck

Dan is @galooph

Danny is @hookdesignalter

Tim is @tim_rivett

Matt is @MattFielding

[edit] Contact

DavidC is coordinating it at the moment - contact me via email at d.carpenter[at]virgin.net

DC and SF are doing this as part of our new approach to life - http://todaywedidthis.org (it's a lot like: http://bashmash.org/ )

[edit] Spec

[edit] From Nick (LAMRT)

Below are some sites I've seen which I've listed as do like.

I have also received comments about pages taking a long time to load with all the pictures..but would like to keep the pictures, since I think they add a lot. Is there another way of including them without lengthy loading times? I don't know how thumbnails work. would this be a way forward?

Other elements just need tidying up...to many copy and paste errors have accumulated over the years.

I would also like to include a members forum, and Google/OS maps...hope this isn't asking too much!

[edit] From Tim Rivett

Other MRT sites worth looking at:

http://www.buxtonmountainrescue.org.uk/
DavidC says - this looks like a wordpress, and is very much more what I had in mind for LAMRT..

http://www.edalemrt.co.uk/

[edit] Solutions

Drupal - each incident type could be a content type, we then use views to pull them together. Should be easy to assign each to a marker for a google map. Also allows RSS feeds not just of all incidents but of each incident type. (There was a reason why they should be different content types and not just one content type that is then tagged/categorised, but DavidC can't think why just now...)

see http://assynt.anglingresearch.org.uk for example of OS Map in Drupal that I have worked on (DC) - uses Mapstraction Module

we can get access to the existing web files - should we pop all the photo's in a Flickr account?

Note: they already use YouTube - would be good to continue to use this, but make it easily embeddable on the site.

All current incidents that are mapped - I have the data in a MySQL database, but it may need some processing - e.g. dates into datetime stamps

I (Chris Maiden) would be up for the data challenge.

[edit] Current Mapping

The incidents are currently mapped here: http://www.nornir.co.uk/lamrt/map.php and included in the LAMRT site with an iFrame. (Be sure to check the Ordnance Survey version of the map: http://www.nornir.co.uk/lamrt/map.php?year=2009&type=os

[edit] Volunteer Sign up

Currently this is a PDF, so could easily be a web form as well.

[edit] Exhibit

Exhibit (http://www.simile-widgets.org/exhibit/) from the people at MIT is very cool. There is a slightly out of date implementation on the LAMRT data at: http://www.nornir.co.uk/lamrt/lamrt.html

There is a Drupal module for this http://drupal.org/project/exhibit
There's also this walk through, that DavidC has not tried yet! If anyone needs some data to play with contact DavidC

[edit] Links

SF and DC have been using delicious.com rather a lot recently to tag websites and then these can be pulled into the site via the API or simple scripts. Is this a solution for the current links?

Stevieflow (who can't attend) thinks he could do something like this - let me know if needed

[edit] Donations

The whole service relies on donations - as much as giving information etc is important, we should not forget that good positioning of 'donate' now buttons, the wish list, thanks to the donators, etc should be prominent.

[edit] Merchandise

Seems to be a tie-in with a local shop - may just need to be formatted nicely rather than become a shop type app.

[edit] Incident lists

Blimey, those are long and not necessarily all formatted the same. We will have access to the original html files, but any clever ideas?

[edit] Feature Bloat

(add your new ideas/features here!)

[edit] (Local) Weather widget

There is a regular mountain weather reports - can anyone find out a way of getting those on the site? - http://www.mwis.org.uk/ld.php is today's forecast, there is also a PDF - http://www.mwis.org.uk/mountain/LD.PDF - this is what you see in the shops and the Youth Hostels.

Could also look at Met Office widget
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/pws/components/ DavidC likes this - as it has a mountain forcast option - see script below:

Drupal Weather module (or am I being unimaginative? Adam)

[edit] Mountain Safety or Advice

DavidC has bookmarked some sites - http://delicious.com/caprenter/mountainsafety

[edit] Twitter Integration

DuncanH (@TawdryMe) - Can't be there on the day but would be interested in doing somethign with the twitter API. Can build something to send alerts to twitter and maybe weather warnings? Just let me know what you need and I shall try my upmost from afar!

Already have the code that produces @bpoolweather so should be pretty easy to adapt for automated weather reports and the like.

SF (@stevieflow) - check out how the Buxton Mountain Rescue use their twitter - http://twitter.com/BxtnMRT

[edit] Just a thought

[edit] Template

In the back of my mind, with the site potentially being on Drupal, there's no reason why this could not either be:

packaged up as an off the shelf solution for other Mountain rescue teams to use,
Become a multisite installation, that other teams could easily set up on..

Andrew Mac - A rescue-team distro (include cave rescue?) is ambitious but would be awesome, especially if each team's incident data is available as an RDF store and SPARQL end-point.

What really intrigues me about this is the possibility to share/combine data from many sources. Not sure 100% how, but...

Alice thinks we should definitely be aiming to release any code we create under GPL, even if we don't get as far as releasing a Drupal platform / install profile.

Andrew Mac - Perhaps we could hack together an OS grid reference CCK widget to extend Geo field, use the Geo backend to store as a coordinate. We'd need to expose it to Views to be any use. I've written CCK fields, but not Views handlers, so perhaps some of us could team up on this? I had a look around for existing OSGB <==> lat/long converters and found a GPL PHP class from geograph.co.uk

[edit] Incident Data Standards and Semantic Web

Davidc doesn't know enough about the semantic web, but he did once have an idea that all this could be RDF'd - I think that entails building a data structure for all mountain rescue incidents....

Following a brief email conversation with one of the experts at Talis:

"representing the data as RDF seems like it would be relatively straight forward, and it would probably involve making a small Mountain Rescue vocabulary for class types like :IncidentReport, and properties like :incidentType and :manHours, which would be fun to work on.

> What I'm also interested in is how, if we're building a new website, we > can make sure the data the input there is re-usable semantically...

Are there any existing vocabularies for (rescue)incident data? Plenty of generic geo schemes.

I guess the simplest thing possible is to annotate the html templates with RDFa. This can then be parsed into triples and could be replicated into a Talis store to provide a SPARQL service etc. The more tricky thing is that it would also be good if the data could link to other URIs on the web. eg: instead of

<#report-1997-06-05> ex:location "Ben Nevis" .

it would be better if it was

<#report-1997-06-05> ex:location <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Ben_Nevis>

Andrew Mac suggests: CCK fields can be assigned an RDF property in D6 with the RDF-CCK module. D6 can be set up as a sparql end-point, will brush up on this before the weekend.

David C thinks Drupal 7 could potentially be the way...

Chris Maiden wonders whether Drupal 7 is stable enough yet for a production site? So does DavidC who thinks we'll be working on Drupal 6.

Stephen Mount has just looked this moment at the Drupal 7 issues queues and says "forget it."

[edit] Code Widows

[edit] Things to do in and around Ambleside

If you're into Beatrix Potter: http://www.lakedistricttouristguide.com/Articles/Beatrix-Potter-and-the-Lake-District_20.asp

Aquarium http://www.lakesaquarium.co.uk/ has kept my two kids busy for a few hours.

They've also got a 3d Cinema!

Never been (and it's not that near Ambleside) but who wouldn't enjoy the Pencil Museum?

Sam B might be able to scrounge a free outing on one of the windemere ferries. I'll ask around and see if I know anyone who'll be on over the weekend.

DavidC - will bring a Rough Guide to the Lake District, borrowed from the Library

[edit] Planning Meeting 13th Jan

The Yorkshire Drupal User Group had a meeting on Wed 13th Jan, that focused on the weekend. DavidC, Alice, Matt, Andrew, JohnS, Steve Parks and DavidP (maybe coming at the weekend) were all there, Chris, A couple of Dans, Simon and AdamS (I think) all joined in on Skype. (by searching for mattfielding on Skype where they could watch and participate in the meeting.)

[edit] Agenda Items

As people have already suggested via email.

I think it might be good to make some decisions about where we host, test servers, version control, etc.

I think even perhaps getting up a 'default' site with some pre-installed modules, and a basic theme (suggestions on favourite starting themes - DavidC is a Zen man)

Wondering if people generating their own usernames and passwords for the site this week is good. Perhaps gives people not coming a chance to create some pages of 'easy' static content?

Would be good to perhaps plan some 'work areas', by breaking the task down into chunks.

Can look to clarify practical arrangements.

Please add anything more....

[edit] Outcomes

So the meeting last night was good. Some decisions were taken, please read through and see how it effects you.

We'll be working off our own local set up most of the weekend to mitigate 'no internet disaster'. Alice will co-ordinate hardware to bring via the wiki. People offering a spare server - that might be good, but we probably don't need loads of them!

We're going to start of with a Aquia install profile of drupal, anyone with Drupal module ideas should post what they think they want..

We'll be using 'Atrium' project management software. Contact Steve Parks or via DavidC) to get a login. He'll bring a copy of that with him - switching it off for a few hours from 4.30pm Friday.

Looks like we'll be using Bazaar version control, so take a look at it if you want.

People are expected to arrive from about 6.30 onwards at the YHA. Ceri may well cook something soon after for people arriving throughout the evening.

I've zipped up the small app I use to populate the google map, including a database dump, and the perl grid ref converter (not used in the app) from David S. email DavidC for a link - and marvel at his coding prowess!

Youth Hostel should supply a cotton sleeping sheet/bag thing and a duvet and pillow - you'll need to bring a towel, but that's all I think!

PLEASE CHECK THAT YOU HAVE A BED - Matt only just made the list!

A group will be getting together this evening over the net to look at 'user stories' - can someone post 'gathering details' please (This is probably a skype thing?)

Lamrt